Because of this little feature, when I am traveling, when the gas gauge in my motorhome drops below 1/2 tank, I will often start looking for a gas station, just to be sure I always have enough fuel. i have class c forrester 2004 onan 4000 microquiet 2 questions, my generator cuts out after 2 hrs with load, all fuel is good tank full , fuel pump flow is good, starts up again but constantly dies that. An example I can describe here is a simple, cheap gasoline-powered lawn-mower motor with two cylinders. It was not. The rest of the generators are the same. So, replace the fuel filter, get rid of that trash in the fuel bowl, and you may also need to replace the fuel pump itself. That way the RV owner always had enough gas to get out of the Boondocks. All this being said, does it make sense to get another panel or another battery to run inline or a whole other option that I’m not thinking about. If this is true with yours then you are lucky in that you will already have the mechanical strength to support a generator, and you may even be able to purchase the wiring etcetera that will make installation easier. But this thing is 36 feet long and the rest of the coach ain't so cool. Many built-in generators won't start if the oil is down to one quart or less. Question: I am new to all of this RV stuff. I have traced the problem to a fault code that says it's due to overvoltage. We are hooked up to my brothers electric outlet on their house and everytime we try to turn the air conditioner on it blows the breaker to their wash room and the RV. Answer: First of all, a warranty is a warranty and they typically only have an end date or mileage limit. Otherwise, if you have problems in the future, you will probably suspect your custom wiring as your culprit when things go wrong. Am I missing anything? A helpful camper showed me the altitude adjustment when the city power went out in Albuquerque, and the generator would fire, but not stay on. I suggest that you go back and recheck the wiring to your COACH batteries and make sure you have everything wired properly. Don Bobbitt (author) from Ruskin Florida on February 19, 2018: Elizabeth - Standard clothes dryer, water heaters and electric Furnaces will typically require 220-VAC to handle the high currents required. PS. RV Water Heater Troubleshooting & How To Fix I... Do You Need A Permit For Boondocking In Arizona? Bewerte Namen. Don Bobbitt (author) from Ruskin Florida on August 24, 2020: David - That gauge indicates the number of hours the generator has run. The standard system design you have works well, and the power control panel would not operate correctly if you change the high-current wiring. Many RV owners don't know where this cut-off switch is. Of course, while on these longer trips they usually have a fridge that is packed with fresh food and beverages, and so they are able to eat very good meals and then sleep in that comfortable bed in the camper. At the same time, if you have not been using your CUT-OFF switch to disconnect the engine battery when the motorhome is not in use, the electrical devices that operate on your engine battery, even when OFF will drain your engine battery. If this is a factory installed generator, then it gets its power to start from your RVs COACH battery. And, the size of the load a larger camper like a motorhome provides requires a generator that is hard to haul around, thus the reason so many have generators that are built-in. You should always make sure you have enough oil in the motor, and always change the oil filter on the motor as scheduled by the manufacturer. After a few years, we purchased our first Tag-Along camper. Sorry but that's the best I can do for you remotely and not having worked on a Generac before myself. Once these checks are run, then check that your COACH battery is fully charged because it's 12-VDC powers your temperature control panel. I have a Class C RV Four Winds Chateau. 3- Some cities, towns and counties do not allow overnight camping anywhere, but many do allow it in some places. Is there a way to switch the wiring system from house to chassis? Some Class-C motorhomes are built on truck frames and will have an original truck/van fuel tank. If you're thinking of buying a classic VW Beetle, you need to know a few things beforehand. But if it is gummed up, that would be an expense of yours. Question: I just bought a trailer and the AC, microwave, etc. Make sure your Cut-Off switch is in the right position to allow power to the interior equipment, and make sure the batteries are fully charged. They are an assembly mounted under the chassis under the generator, and they're relatively easy to change. An RV is an expensive thing to buy, and once sold, it depreciates literally every month. It they ae being charged, then you only need to charge it occasionally. And that's one reason why you should check the oil in the generator often. Is jump starting bad for your car? Answer: From your symptoms, I assume that you have a travel trailer or a Fiver? So, while sitting in your campground, plugged into campsite power, see if you can start your generator? Still not sure of type, haven't looked at it in a while. Hello, im about to rent an RV and travel from Texas to Nevada and plan to stay at several RV camps and resorts therefore will I be needing the generator alot.. It is definitely not recommended that you "redesign" your RV wiring away from the standard configuration. Check the total hours on the generator before you start to get an indication that it may just be worn out or not and need replacement or an overhaul. Now I'll need an external fuel tank and battery but haven't a clue how to add outlets to make it like a factory portable unit... Can you help. This filter must be changed regularly, and I suspect it's your problem. If there is no shore power, do I plug the electric cord in the outside compartment into the receptacle in the same compartment? Because by this time the RV manufacturers knew that they had to do whatever as necessary to make their motorhomes more competitive than the others, they all started installing built-in generators in the larger motorhomes. Question: I have an RV bus with an onan 7500 gen. But it also appears to be draining the chassis battery as it runs. Then disconnected the fuel line, primed & cranked it , nothing. Sleep (25), Money (24). The 2 neutral wires and gnd from the same cable are tied to a common ground bolt. These parts of a generator's fuel system will need occasional service: If the fuel filter gets dirty or blocked, even partially, then too little fuel will be provided to your motor, and it may not run. Use the manufacturer’s suggested coolant (anti-freeze) mixture. Don Bobbitt (author) from Ruskin Florida on October 24, 2019: Probably the first thing you should do is make sure your COACH battery is fully charged. . Repeat. New car? I have a 2500 Onan that operates on propane. When I say 9:45 that’s because we ran the generator until then. Answer: An RV with a built-in generator will automatically switch over to the generator when you start it, and back to shore power when it is turned off. And, when it is running, the external power is switched OFF. Again, the mechanical modifications and then the electrical wiring will require a lot of work if you are going to end up with a safe project. If this is the case then I also have to assume that the generator runs but your Rv does not switch over to it for 110-VAC power? Second, I have had several motorhomes with a 5K-Onan generator, and with a half-load on the generator, it will burn around 1/3-to-1/2 of a gallon an hour. It was fun! Answer: To Your Question; As long as you have it mounted on something like a table, it should run properly. Thanks. Read my hub on How to replace your fuel filter and fuel pump. 2- Many Walmart stores allow RVers to camp in their parking lots for a day or two, but only if they comply with their rules. The gasoline is usually fed via gravity to the carburetor on the motor. Many generators will have a sensor that detects if the oil level gets low and stops the generator from running to protect it from damage. Could I run the generator without the cover, or will that actually damage it? I’m going to assume once I run the new 6volt batteries that I can’t run my current 12 volt in parallel for a little extra? While running it shows 13 amps being used but the only device on is the fridge. Find out whether your car's temperature gauge is working right, discovering key symptoms and applying a few simple tests. But, you need to get another one from the manufacturer because it is part of the noise baffling system and the noise will not just irritate yourself but your neighboring campers. We we are on a low budget so I am anxious to hear what you tell me. Don Bobbitt (author) from Ruskin Florida on May 29, 2017: Leonard Jauquez - Your generator is designed to; 1- keep your house batteries charged, and allow you to operate in a state park or out in the wilds where there is no power for your V. It powers your inverter so your 110-VAC appliances and air conditioner will work, and it uses the same gas tank for fuel. In the early days of camping in the USA, there were “rough campers.” For these people, "camping" included a tent, a sleeping bag, a backpack of dried foods, bottled water, a few matches, a snake bite kit, and not much else. And you know what? But or your Inverter to be effective, it would be required to provide at least either 30-AMPs or 50-AMPs (depending on your RV's overall AC Service) of AC Voltage from your inverter which in turn would require the addition of numerous extra COACH batteries and a much larger Converter to keep them all charged. Question: Why would a carburetor be a problem on a brand new Class C RV? Built-in generators are so popular today that it's actually hard to find a motorhome that doesn't come with a nice generator built into it. So, are these batteries in good condition and do they have water in them? Your generator motor uses oil to keep all of those mechanical parts running smoothly as they rub against each other. The AC Power breaker box does not power the Converter separately. Duh, wiring diagram, ha, I shall seek this info. And I suspect that if you read yours, it will not say anything about how much you use your RV. They must be kept isolated from each other with this kind if Power Transfer switch. If any of the terms or abbreviations in use here are new to you, check out my article on electrical terms. What configuration is the elctrical plug. Oil level is good. Typically the recommended oils for most generators are similar to auto engine oils, but I would check what is recommended for my specific brand and model. Remember that your generator will not get gas if your fuel tank is below 1/4 full. Again, the fridge isn’t gonna get that warm while we are out skiing 3-4 hours at a whack. Some electric generators are air-cooled. These receptacles exist normally to provide power for your TV sets and often for a computer receptacle near the passenger seat. I’ll kill all power while we’re skiing. Question: I had to pull my Onan generator out of the RV to replace the fuel pump. Question: What's your opinion about propane generators? secondly does the generator use 12v feedback in any way outside of starting , it cut out and realized my battery connection were loose .. Don Bobbitt (author) from Ruskin Florida on July 23, 2017: Mark Deerhelm - Running your generator regularly, such as once a month IS a good idea. On the other hand, if you used a solar-assisted water heater and maybe a propane furnace the current needed would be significantly less. I fear that your main problem may be the fact that your RV is a customization of a commercial bus into a motorhome. What is odd is that when I got home I had it on for about an hour with both A/C’s on with no problems. Name an animal hikers fear running into. These are the three essentials a newbie might not check. Then the piston moves to compress the diesel fuel to the pressure necessary for it to explode. Inspect wiring periodically for wear, torn insulation, and loose connections. When your generator is running then it will not allow your external power source to be accessed. If you just hear a clicking sound and the generator is not turning, then your battery voltage is most likely your problem. Don Bobbitt (author) from Ruskin Florida on February 03, 2014: Teri- OK the steps and your internal lights are 12VDC. At the flick of a switch! 1- is your Coach battery fully charged? Many people will run their RV on the batteries while cooking or watching TV (you can add a cheap Inverter that will convert 12-VDC to enough 110-VAC for one TV). Do i need to be level for my generator to work right ? There is one glass fuse that tests fine. There are four basic functional sections of an electric generator. You look like you know your stuff. Will that make gen shut down when a/c are turned in? The two generator start switches are there to give the operator the option of starting the generator from either spot. Picture a coil of wire wrapped around a shaft. We just got this RV and drove it twice. Ain't camping life a rough life? Thanks. Night two, the battery ran the furnace fan from 9:45 to only 4am. this Is the first camper we�ve ever owned. If all of your breakers are actually functioning then your AC distribution system is OK. Your external power cable uses 4-wires; two are separate 110-VAC sources, one is your COMMON wire and one is your GROUND wire. Having such a second battery takes any load and current draw off of the engine battery, so the Rv is always ready to start and go. Hi,,, We are renting an RV (2016 Coachmen Leprechaun) and we were wondering if we could plug in our generator instead of using the generator that the rv comes with? Onan 7000. I figured it may be one of these two modules, and probably the RED LED does light during some point. Willkommen in unserer Community! Don Bobbitt (author) from Ruskin Florida on November 05, 2018: But, in most motorhomes you will have a couple of receptacles that will be pwered by your Coach batteries via an INVERTER which uses the 12-VDC to generate a limited amout of 110-VAC. When plugged into shore power all is well. Sorry, I’m replying as I go down your post. If there is buildup at the exhaust pipe you may be actually burning oil which can often be caused by worn piston rings. 2- The COACH battery on a motorhome (which I am guessing you are talking about) is not a part of the "vehicle" electrical system. My partner's adult son is living in it. Am hoping to have someone with more electrical knowledge than I tackle it. A good generator should operate normally with a load on it. This redesign was intended to avoid the situation where a camper out in the middle of nowhere runs the generator until it uses up so much fuel that there isn’t enough left to drive the vehicle back to a gas station and fill it up again. I have a Generac Primepact 50G generator that has no AC power going to the 30 AMP plug in the next compartment.. Question: How many batteries are there in a 1985 Ford Tioga RV? Question: I have a 2003 Itasca MH other 50 amp service. Sometimes, the user can have too many appliances plugged into the RV receptacles and cause the main or one of the receptacle breakers to kick out. The Bullnose Mercedes is a real truck. What could be the problem? I got a 7kw generator removed from a motorhome, motor home was scraped. That equals 20 amps x 8 hours = 80 amp hours x 0.5 for a 50% duty cycle = 40 amp hours. When the generator is turned on, it runs for 5 minutes then quits. If this is not your problem then you might want to change the fuel filter for your generator. I am a total newbee to the RV world, so please bear with me. And once you had an RV with AC as well as DC power, the camper designs used dual-mode light systems (110-VAC and 12-VDC), as well as connections for small appliances. Answer: Your converter would be running and keeping your 12-VDC COACH batteries charged. Designing was very competitive, and, through hot-rodding, engines and horsepower increased dramatically. Only a trained mechanic should service this. Your '96 will only have a 30-Amp service standard, so I would only run one of the AC units to avoid any problems with overloading the generator. One other thing. I am located in Chugiak, Alaska, and I haven't had alot of luck finding anyone up here to assist in the adventure. Hi Don, I am looking into buying a used DP. Did we make a big mistake. Click on the link here; https://axleaddict.com/rvs/RV-Generator-Maintenanc... We have a diesel Winnebago Vectra 2004 with an Onan generator. American auto manufacturers were on a roll in the 1960s. It runs on 110-VAC like the microwave. Thanks so much Don for this very informative post. I suspected the main tank needs to be above 1/4 full. Find sales, special offers, coupons and more. Other than that, your engine light being on can be an indicator of something simple most of the time. But be aware that your RV is designed to operate on either a 50-Amp or 30-Amp 220-VAC service. Thanks again. Question: What might cause a new generator in a new camper to turn on, but only run for a minute or so? Answer: The philosophy with motorhomes is that you should not have any superfluous appliances loading down your chassis battery. We did not buy an rv with a generator and in traveling can not stay free anywhere overnight. I recently acquired a 2014 39' Winnebago and am looking to use it in cold weather the next couple of weeks in the midwest for football game tailgating before I put it away. This article will give you a basic overview of the different designs of RV generators, how they operate, and some basic generator service tips. And, as with an automobile, you need to consider the amount and strength of antifreeze appropriate for the season and region where you are using the generator. We have full power when plugged into electricity. Check and make sure the batteries are being charged when the generator i running, by measuring the voltage across the battery terminals. Don Bobbitt (author) from Ruskin Florida on March 19, 2018: Michael - First of ll, your RV batterie will only lat a few days with the load of a fan and a TV before they ill need charging. Question: Our heater just stopped working. Don Bobbitt (author) from Ruskin Florida on September 03, 2019: Motorhomes have a safety design to protect the owner from running out of gas. It's actually a simple process that a person with a little maintenance skill can perform. So, to use your external generator you will need to be the proper adapter cables so that you can plug your RV into the generator when you need power while boondocking or camping anywhere other than a campground. One is to buy and keep it for years hoping that the price increases, the other is to buy for a low price and flip it for a quick profit. I'm seeing notes of constant amp draws in the 1 to 5 amp range in "normal" interior temperatures. A friend of mine had a contractor design and install a fully solar power system in his motorhome and although the total cost was around $30K, he can go off-grid for weeks at a time using only his Solar system in his motorhome. Hier kannst Du Dich mit anderen Eltern und werdenden Müttern und Vätern über Vornamen und Elternthemen austauschen. She's also a YouTube star.â¦â My point is that this will only power half of your 120- VAC appliance and by the way, your Air Conditioner uses 220-VAC, or in other words 2 separate 120-VAC lines. Answer: First of all, your AC units in your RV operate on 220-VAC. Eventually campers became accustomed to using such appliances everywhere: in state parks, in the woods, alongside streams and lakes, and pretty much wherever they went. Answer: Some companies do make a unit that is a combination Inverter and Converter, but this is not common and they are separate units. We do have a 3500 dual fuel generator. Some motorhome owners will run their generator while driving if the outside weather is so HOT that the dash AC cannot keep the RV interior cool. Any thoughts? Question: I have a 1997 Allegro Class A. The a/c from the engine works well now. I'm ignorant. Answer: Yes, The onboard generator starts using your COACH battery. Those first old campers of ours, way back then, had your basic accessories, such as electric lights, a water pump, a propane stove, but not a whole lot else. This has been a common way to keep your coach cool when traveling in very hot climates with motorhomes for decades. Car detailing is very different from car washing. Thanks in advance. Answer: Yes, of course. the furnace may draw 20 amps (for such a large rig), and run on a 50% duty cycle on a cold night. Question: I'm new to RVing, and I have a brand new motorhome with an onboard gasoline generator. RV's have generators for use under tow conditions; 1- rough camping in wilderness conditions, or 2- when you stop in a rest area or truck stop and need power while you cook or sleep. Does it hurt anything to start the generator while I'm hooked? If the battery voltage drops very low then several things can happen but the most common is that your power control panel could malfunction. Keep a spare, just in case, especially if you use your generator a lot. 1- campgrounds do not allow generators at all or some few will allow their use up to a certain time at night. Check for these switches first. I let it run for maybe 5-7 minutes before slipping the 30 amp switch to begin sending power to the appliances etc. Check for wear or leaks, especially if you smell fuel. Anyway, to our question, you should be able to test your generator the way you asked. You need to know how to keep your once-new RV in good condition for that day when you decide to sell it or trade it in on another one. So, Your TV's typically use receptacles that are powered by your INVERTER, so they will operate when you are Boondocking and don't have external electrical power. Read your article to reconfirm my thoughts. I'll get some fuel as this seems to be the problem. In fact, because of the smaller electrial load, there are several companies who make Solar Panel kits that can be installed in a Pop-Up or small towable trailer camper. This spark causes the mixture to explode, and forces the piston in the cylinder to slide open, which moves the crankshaft of the motor. Also, make sure the batteries have water in them. by doing this, you keep everything cleaned out and ready to run efficiently. So, check that your battery is OK, and can be charged????? Answer: Your motorhome has a Converter that charges your COACH batteries, and it is powered by your 110-VAC regardless of whether you are running on your external power or your generator. Being a Rv traveler for many years, I do suggest that you keep your generator serviced and in tip top condition. ?Have a diesel 5500 Bigfoot and after about 10-15 minutes the generator shuts off don't mean to sound stupid. the same as it does the one in your campsite power box. You could try going to the RV owners site called IRV2. So, the next "necessary item" for the typical modern camper was—you got it—a good electric generator. The two cylinders are designed so that when one cylinder is firing, the other one is getting fuel and air to fire. The mechanic will be able to tell you if the generator can be fixed or not. Get the model number and purchase a new filter to see if this is why it isn't running properly. Answer: The ONAN generators utilize this red light and the number of blinks to provide the owner with a few error codes. Thus, the American Muscle Car was born. AND, I m assuming you have an RV that is already wired with a TRANSFER Switch system that will select between the Shore and Gen power systems? Question: Can I run the generator on my RV to power an appliance, such as a toaster oven, while I am driving? They (the coffee maker, microwave), show they are getting power, but then it clicks off. We connected our main appliances to it. In the carburetor, the gasoline is mixed with air (or oxygen) and injected into the motor's cylinder where a spark is provided via a spark plug. We are not running with water at all. You can make some repairs using a few common tools. You rarely see a towable camper with a built-in generator, because to install a generator the manufacturers would have to install a fuel tank as well. Identifying the type of noise and when it happens can help you diagnose your transmission problem. The dealer is refusing to fix it under extended warranty, and blames us for not using it enough. my generator won't turn on. They did not have such things as television, air conditioning, hot water heaters, microwave ovens, and all of the amenities that you will find as standard equipment on the RVs of today. Here's an article with pictures on how I replaced a fuel pump and fuel filter in my Onan 5500 generator. Don Bobbitt (author) from Ruskin Florida on July 28, 2019: Ideally, you always want your RV to be leveled. My husband said you have to buy a special generator just for rvs. If there were two sources on the same appliances, etc, there would be some serious electrical damage in your RV. When the power control panel senses that the generator is running and generating power, then it switches over to the generator as long as it is running. Is this a generator exhaust or something else? Sag Deine Meinung. Answer: Your microwave, your AC units, your 110-VAC receptacles your Fridge, Ice-maker all operate on your external campsite external power normally. Don Bobbitt (author) from Ruskin Florida on May 23, 2019: Lois - Your symptoms are a little confusing, but I am assuming that you have a motorhome with a built-in ONAN generator??? Don is a retired engineer and long-time motorhome owner who enjoys helping readers deal with the increasingly complex technology of RVs. Our first trip, we took it skiing with our kids. Question: When I disconnect the coach battery the generator dies. Question: Our generator is on but our microwave is not getting power. Remember these appliances are heave and MUST be mounted so they will not bounce around and damage your RV's interior. I didn’t really think about the 12v fridge being an issue until we were running off battery only. When I say 9:45 that�s because we ran the generator until then. The same above, 12V @ 9A = 108 Wh. I'm restoring a 1997 National Tropi-cal with a generac 55k built in generator. I’ve insulated the storage bays. And I can say, with some confidence that your RV electrical system itself is not involved in your not getting power from the generator. I explain what a car detail should include, why you should get your vehicle detailed and when, and how much it should roughly cost. If you use an electric generator, you should have at least a general understanding of how it works, so that you can make sure your generator is there for you when you need it. Your Rv should sense it is running and switch the "transfer switch" over to the generator. Diesel fuel is a dirty fuel, so I would immediately change the fuel filter. Bright sun all day while we were skiing, and trailer sitting in direct sun all day. If so, for how long would it need to be charged? We are new to this RV and camping thing, and cannot figure this out. Ans, if your generator exhaust was disconnected then, yes, the exhaust could be getting inside the generator housing. It can become fouled with carbon or dirt, and eventually the contacts will wear out. It’s a 2015 Thor Axis 24.2. Why does the generator operate off of the house batteries instead of the chassis batteries? Again, I have left out all of that complex design stuff like the magnetic metals used, the complex ways that the wires are wound, the contacts used, and on and on. Each cylinder contains a piston which is connected to a crankshaft.
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