Saadia seemed insincere. Let them fight it out their own way. Agreed to talk Sadia out of the city. According to them, if it were not for her the city could have held its ground during the Great War. So you sided with them because of a gut feeling, based on how she "seemed" to be lying. I pretty sure the thalmor know that an overwhelming majority of the redguards are against them, in fact an overwhelming amount of redguards HATE the thalmor. Here's how I see it, the alikr are guilty of unlawful extradition (which i doubt is even a thing in the elder scrolls universe) however saadia is without a doubt lying about the alikr working with the thalmor, that is obvious to anyone with any lore knowledge. The thalmor want to EXTERMINATE all humans on tamriel, and that isn't even a secret, so tell me, what could saadia have done to the thalmor make their reputation drop any lower and for the thalmor to hire a famous redguard mercenary to kill one woman in skyrim? One commenter doesn't trust one woman because he thinks she's insincere, which is a valid point. i joined saadia and kamatu i tryed the boy bad choise i tryed girl much better until i got werewolf and killed all exept the unkillable ones. He says that in Hammerfell, the resistance against the Dominion (which is not there since 4E 180) is still alive. Kill Kematu, & Cast Calm on Saadia when paralyze wears off. And yes, I do realize that I may have greatly misinterpreted your meaning and would encourage you to tell me what you meant by all of those offensive comments.Thank you, and have a nice day. Why didn't they do this, why didn't that... finally at least you admit that you have no sense of morality: morals don't come from laws: laws come from morals. as ive said many times before, im not sure about him being wrong. If they gain the favor of a few rich individuals, they are probably safe. Who exactly was she speaking out against them to that it would matter? Cliche misogyny and melodramatic reaction to said misogyny aside, I sided with Saadia because of a few reasons: Ah I see. is it better to side with saadia or kematu? Like her story is actually contradicting itself. I'm not basing her guiltiness on anything but what common sense and in game lore backs up. He was hired to bring her back, he apparently is quite famous in hammerfell so of course he inst going to just go away empty handed. Imagine sneaking into the united states in the company of an al qaeda leader. Alright just going to toss my two sense in here, you keep saying the reason you were about to be executed was because you were caught sneaking in with "the biggest terrorist in the country" yet Ulfric was not only already in Skyrim but was also arrested for murdering the high king not sneaking illegally into Skyrim so in other words you WERE arrested for sneaking in and were about to be executed for it... just puttin that out there. I think they realized everything, but didn't consider us intelligent enough to put two and two together and decided to not bother. Didn't the IMPERIAL SOLDIERS, you know, the ones working for THE EMPIRE, that makes ALL OF THE LAWS, almost chop your head off for no reason? "but I thought I would summarize by saying that the arguments against her were frequently bs, and seemed to be sexist." Espionage was much more difficult to orchestrate for the British than it would be for the Thalmor... lol. I see someone has already answered the monetary benefit, so I'll add my take on moral decision. Bugs . :). I'm sorry that your brain is a quivering pile of shit, I don't know what to tell you... maybe you should forgo college and become a professional guinea pig, or a male prostitute for extremely poor woman with no self respect. she doesn't know. That wouldn't give him much public support. but its actually a good summary of your argument: she is guilty if she committed the crime, therefore she committed the crime. The emperor makes the laws of skyrim, and the jarls make local decisions. You talk to him - of course, he puts it his way, and soon you switch sides again - I believed his story, and followed his orders, and finally I found myself back in the city lying to a woman that I'd do everything to protect her, only to lure her out of the save walls and hand her over to a gang, that tried very hard to kill me just before. Please try to justify any of that, i want you to. Shame on you all. He dual-wiel… I went with Saadia because she was alone and I had to wade through ten or so kematu lackies that were trying to kill me before I got to talk to the "friendly guy". Noob. *thumbs up*  That being said Kematu should be lying as well but for some reason I stopped doing this quest in my playthroughs not sure why it just felt like a chore most of the times rather than an OK quest. Well, except I don't give a toss about the shape of their swords))). It's been a long time and I never really cared about this quest, but I usually sided with Saadia, mostly because I didn't like the idea of handling a lone person I had never heard anything about to a bunch of people I had never heard anything about. And we don't base our evidence on places, we base our evidence on faith and realizing that life has a purpose other than being born, spending 50-80 years (or however long you and I might live) trying to get as much awesome stuff and have as much fun in this world as possible (which won't last)... We see that there is something more than wasting your life partying and getting stoned and drunk and probably dying before you hit 50 because you party all the time. If I have to choose between 2 snakes in a basket, I'd walk off. I side with Kematu. I am not objecting to the possibility that kematu was in the right, I am objecting to the common arguments put forward on this and other forums stating that saadia "seemed" to be lying, or stating that she would not be killed if caught. We're all, I am sure, VERY familiar with the Whiterun quest 'In my time of need' - where you are faced with deciding whether Saadia or Kematu are telling you the truth. Though they feel somehow strange, you think - why not try to find her for them. No she doesn't i just watched a walkthrough. "Everyone who plays skyrim is sexist and afraid of women. And why should we consider that obscure walkthrough that nobody's ever seen before? You're also confusing who her supposed enemies are, she claims the aldmeri dominion are after her, not some rival noble house. How exactly does she know he's there again? Actually WRONGO... the factual definition of religious Faith means you hold a belief despite lack of evidence or evidence to the contrary. And if she diid sell the city to the Dominion, that's all the more reason to help her, if one is a Thalmor oneself. She's surrounded by thousands of people who speak out against them as well without repercussion, are you telling me that the thalmor are going to take any interest in one woman who is against them who lives in a country they're at war at? Now tell me who's the cop, and who's the fugitive? There are multiples things in game that support that saadia IS lying, but instead of commenting or refuting any of those you decided that the better strategy was to go on a women's rights crusade. If you click on  any of the sleep sacks on the ground it allows you to sleep. While Kematu and Saadia are talking at the stables, you can still kill Kematu before he casts the spell on Saadia. I decided to take out Saadi, as I am working for the legion against stormcloaks in the civil war, as the Aldmeri/Thalmor are the main conspirators behind the return of the dragons (reviving them via necromancy in dragon burial mounds). That was a kicker right there. If you kill him after he casts the spell, however, Saadia will … And to address a few of your points:                                                 1. Famous mercenaries (which the prisoner states "if you know..") who want to ever get a job again, if not outright get killed by their own people (because as stated the Redguards HATE the Thalmor) are not going to work for the Thalmor. I suggest going to a psychologist. Hammerfell repelled the Dominion. But the second or third time, especially after you read about the Great War? To me, the quest just didn't give the impression of a morally-driven quest because we don't know what really happened with Saadia to have her get chased down by the Alik'r warriors, and it didn't help that both sides refuse to even provide us with a bit of the truth. Ever heard anything about "no more rooms at the inn, so they stayed with the animals", like in those nativity scenes that are all over the world come christmas time? Just got on this forum to figure out if I should side with Kematu or Saadia. -- MrWarSpoon. Technically, though, I more often side with Saadia just through "Oh, you're not going to tell me why I should hand someone over to a couple of suspicious-looking mercenaries? I killed Kematu and his men. Always went with Kematu, because mainly I don't trust thots. That only triggers if you kill a Thalmor. Or continue to talk to Kematu to side with the Alik'r Warriors. according to this in my time of need walkthrough, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GUh2TfqJJ1k. I think the title of the quest is debatable here. I don't remember my SAT score but I know for a fact I scored a 30 on the ACT reading section. Pickpocketed everything she owned (including her clothes) as she left the city. How do you know she crossed illegally? Which is not the case, since there is a peace treaty. Normally I would have sided with Kematu. Good luck with your life. 2. Register. When I played Skyrim the first time, long before doing this quest, I went to the Sleeping Giant Inn, and there lay the book about the Great War. There are multiple reasons I've already mentioned, to you I believe. History -- Hammerfell was a nationally weak country comprised of many city-state type governments/confederacies with conflicting ideals and politics. You can loot the chest either way. Also, she didn't ask for the player to kill all of them, she said if Kematu was killed the others would scatter (which arguably doesn't had since two warriors hangout near the gates of Whiterun at any given time and I still see them harassing Redguard women on the roads. According to Saadia she's on the run from the Alik'r for speaking out against the Aldmeri Dominion. If you can't handle a little embellishment, you should get off the internet for your own sanity's sake. I went to the Cave, killed everyone up to the boss. The alikr are taking her to face judgement for her crime and she sends you to kill them, who's morally justifiable in that situation? Empire agrees, Hammerfell sees this as a betrayal and breaks off from the Empire. I finally decided to kill him and his mens, just to do the opposite of my usual way. Even if a few british spies tried to kill them the american wouldn't flee to canada, he would just go to the American authorities in a safer town. killing kematu is better because the chest contains a number of rare enchanted items. I ended up getting both rewards by first going to kill kematu but after I killed most of his henchman he offered to give me reward to lure saadia to the stables so I said ok looted the cave then went back to whiterun. First she claims she didn't know the mercenaries were looking for her then she tells you that one of them was catched by the guards. doesn't matter. So there is no reason for us to be arguing if you can't distinguish between 1.) The flaw in your argument about the taliban is that they were a grass roots organization from within afghanistan that has support there. So I got both rewards but when I go to bannered mare now saadia is hostile. They're winning the war and B. 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